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Not a Christian Nation Stamp by fira-flame Not a Christian Nation Stamp by fira-flame


"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion." ARTICLE 11; Treaty of Tripoli, 1796, 1806

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Bill of Rights.

"The United States have adventured upon a great and noble experiment, which is believed to have been hazarded in the absence of all previous precedent -- that of total separation of Church and State. No religious establishment by law exists among us." John Tyler, 10th President of the United States of America.

"One of the great strengths of the United States is … we have a very large Christian population -- we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values." United States President Barack Obama.

Constitution Lecture 9: Separation of Church and State - [link]


Also, you may take notice that there is no mention of the Christian God ANYWHERE in the Constitution. The omission of God in the Constitution did not come out of forgetfulness, but rather out of the Founding Fathers purposeful intentions to keep government separate from religion.

EDIT: I'm not surprised this stamp has caused so much controversy, but I am surprised that someone has actually gone as far to go through all of the comments and spam them. I think I need a good pat on the back.
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:iconpasteiic:
PasteIic Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Thank. You.
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supershadow64ds Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Fun Fact, the phrase "In God we trust" was only added to the Pledge of Allegiance after fears of a Godless Communist state taking over America arose in the 1950's.
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fivelmousekewitz Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014
There's is an episode of The Newsroom where Jeff Daniels' character makes this clear
Just look up American Taliban on YT
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squiggledog Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014
Almost 80 percent of Americans are Christian. It is a de facto Christian nation. We don't have an official language either, but wouldn't you call it an English-speaking nation?
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
And it also doesn't excuse Christian politicians pushing their faith into government.
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:iconmornofvivec:
MornofVivec Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014
That still doesn't give the Christians the right to impose their views and way of life on the other 20 percent.
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EMlLEE Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
I think it should be changed to "shouldn't be" rather than never was. Because America was founded by religious people. Now with people of many cultures have settled here we should make America safe for all religions and beliefs and keep the church out of our goverments!
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
It says "never was" because the Puritans came to North Americans specifically to get away from a religious monarchy, and the founding fathers explicitly forbade the combination of church and state. 
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Cobra50A Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Our founding fathers were deists, dumbasses -.-
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:iconspunnyz:
Spunnyz Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Hate to be that one person, but what's a deist?
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:iconcobra50a:
Cobra50A Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A person who believes a god created our universe and then left us
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:iconspunnyz:
Spunnyz Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Ooooh okay. Thank you.
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soulessone12 Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2014
I agree with this stamp and I'm a christian (seriously why do people come up with this thought have they read the constitution or they think the constitution is the bible?)
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Hoodifiste Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Why quote President Barack Obama? He's wasn't even born American, but, I guess that doesn't matter anymore, now does it? Who determined those ideals and set of values, if they did not originate from God? From the goodness of mankind? I think not.
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MornofVivec Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2014
Dude, when Obama was born in '61 in Hawaii, it had been granted statehood back then. And define "God". Everyone has a different idea of God; Presbyterians, Catholics, Lutherans, Methodists, Baptists, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, and whatnot.
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NanaTHECoyote Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014  Student Digital Artist
It is a christian nation, unless why would it say, in GOD we trust? Hm? And in one nation under GOD, God = Christianity.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
False. "In God we Trust" was not added to US currency until 1864 during the American Civil War and did not become the official motto of the USA until 1956 during the Cold War. "Under God" was not added to the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954 for the same reason. The word "god" is not a Christian, or Jewish, invention and can apply to any deity or deities of any Theistic or Deistic belief. The USA might be populated by Christians, be greatly influenced by a few aspects of the Christian faith, and have it politics dominated by Christian issues, but by no means was it founded on Christian principles, created by Christian leaders, or ever meant to be a Christian nation. 
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MaromiPakku Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2014
psst god can also apply to jews

*does a backflip*

from your friendly neighborhood jew
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:iconnanathecoyote:
NanaTHECoyote Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Of course, 
Nice flip xDD lol
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MaromiPakku Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014
slaaaamed--
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gattsby Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
That line was added in the 1950's, not the late 1700's. :facepalm:
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NanaTHECoyote Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Okay then, but it is still in the national anthem.
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supershadow64ds Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Pledge of Allegiance*
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NanaTHECoyote Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Mhm. 
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gattsby Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
The national anthem was not written by the Goverment, nor the President. It was written by a soldier if I remember correctly. 
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NanaTHECoyote Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Maybe, but i dont really want too continue this conversation I was just going my point of opinion on this.
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Chiminix Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Ronald Reagan once said that the Constitution was never meant to prevent people from praying, but rather to protect their freedom to do so.
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pomparty Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2014
this is what i'm always trying to tell people lol

this country was founded on religious freedom

which means you can be a christian or not a christian and all is swell
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LadySomnambule Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
True. I think the whole "America is a Christian nation" bullshit is just a buzzword or something. :hmm:
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AnimeFreak117 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014
agreed
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chris1112 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014
I hate it when people say that the United States is a Christian nation it is a false statement and shows people's gross lack of understanding of the constitution and the bill of rights.
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RollingFrog Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014  Hobbyist Writer

When did the Mayflower land?

 

1620

 

What were they pilgrims looking for?

 

Freedom to worship God.

 

This predates all the documents you’re using as proof against America being once a Christian nation (documents which the true meaning has been spun). Take a look at the Mayflower Compact. Also, if you use common sense, you will recognize that when those documents were written and signed, everyone (with the exception of the Indians) was a Christian.

 

I find it humorous that you used Barack Obama in your list of examples. Funny, he believes that this country was founded off of Islam. I’d like to see a US record that proves that.

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FunnelVortex Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
There were already settlers here before the mayflower :|
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Vovina-de-Micaloz Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The pilgrims actually came here to escape religious persecution, ie the church forcing them to turn away from their pagan ancestry... but the enemy followed them here and started to corrupt the country like they did with Europe.
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Limnoria Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2014
The Pilgrims didn't found America, the Mayflower Compact is not the governing document of the United States, and the religious identity of the founding fathers has nothing to do with the nature of the Constitution.
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RollingFrog Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Hobbyist Writer

I was expecting your comment a few days earlier. With your reputation, I was hoping for something a little more impressive.


I could probably give plenty of reasons why this country was a Christian nation, and you or some other person would have something to say about each and every one of them, I'm sure. Then we'd go on and on. It's just not worth my time. I'm too old for these kind of arguments. I'd rather paint.


Okay, you seem like a historian. Whatever you say must be the gospel.

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:iconlimnoria:
Limnoria Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014
I'm pretty obscure.  You must have confused me with someone else.

Indeed.

That's right.
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:iconrollingfrog:
RollingFrog Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Hobbyist Writer

No...I'm not mistaken. I knew you would reply.


Yes, congratulations :).  

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:iconlimnoria:
Limnoria Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014
As the majority of my comments are no longer on political or religious stamps, I'm not buying it.
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:iconrollingfrog:
RollingFrog Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Hobbyist Writer

I'm fine with that. It makes little difference.


Now, please...be at peace.

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:iconlimnoria:
Limnoria Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014
Don't worry about me.  It takes a lot more than a frog to rustle my jimmies.
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SilverBeastLaguz Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
LordElthibar baww-locked me. It looks like I won this argument. :)
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Commander-Dominic Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014
The stamp is 100% True!
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1980goldclick Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013
The VERY FIRST AMENDMENT of the constitution is based on the Separation of church and state.  The paramount reason why the forefathers came to this country was for religious freedom.  They listed it as their top goal in forming America.  Matter of fact, most of the fore fathers weren’t even Christian, but deist, atheist and agnostic.
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BlueKarou Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Student Photographer
...Also, the puritans were Protestants...  
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Limnoria Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2013
I gotta love how there are dumbfucks on the previous pages going "In GOD We Trust", "One Nation Under GOD", sound familiar LOLOL Look at all our Christian monuments HERP DERP!!1!"

I'd love to hear them explain why words and phrases and statues that are not laws suddenly have legal power. :roll:

This is a great stamp. :D
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Blackestfang Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
i'm only on page 2 and see three of these
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:iconlimnoria:
Limnoria Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2014
Depressing, isn't it?
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:iconblackestfang:
Blackestfang Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
a little bit of research and they would know better.
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:iconlimnoria:
Limnoria Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2014
They have lethal allergies to facts, though.
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